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How to handle nsf checks
This is my first time. Nice to know this is here. I can't figure out how to do a check if it is returned nsf from a cutomer.
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bad check
You can use the Help in quickbooks to see how to do this or the following:
Create an Other Charge item titled "Bad Check." In the Amount field, leave a zero amount. From the Tax Code list, choose Non. In the Account field, choose your bank account. Click Next. Create a second Other Charge item titled "Bad Chk Chrg" for the service charge you assess customers for bounced checks. Use this item when you reinvoice the customer to recover the service charge. In the Amount field, leave a zero amount. Create a new invoice with the amount for the returned check in Bad Check and the bank charge for it on the Bad Chk Chrg item. From the Tax Code list, choose Non. In the Account field, choose an income account, such as Returned Check Charges. If the account doesn't exist, set it up now. |
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Apart from Joe's suggestion you might want to look at the HELP INDEX [returned cheques].
As I get only about one NFS per year and there is NO bank charge for NFS cheques I get the replacement monies for customer and make an entirely separate deposit for the amount in question with a note on that deposit what it was for. I don't touch the original transaction and I don't enter the replacement $ in QB. It balances my bank acct but don't think an accountant would do it that way. Any comments? Norbert |
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As many of my clients file their taxes on the Cash Basis, I prefer a little different method. Link the RetCheck item directly to the Sales Income account instead of the Checking account. The RetCkFee item can be linked to the Bank Service Charges OR the Reimbursed Expenses Income account.
Anyway, when the NSF first bounces, go to Write Checks and create a Debit (in the check number area) non-printed check with a Payee of Returned Check (Other Name) and fill in the amount of the check and I use the Customer's name in the Memo area. Charge this non-check to the Sales Income account in the Expense column below. You will also want to create another one with a Payee of Returned Check Fee for the amount that the bank charged you. This way they will be there to check off when you reconcile. It will also reduce your income for the amount of that check. Then create a new Invoice for the Customer using the RetCheck item and the RetCkFee item that are linked as we discussed above to the Income Accounts instead of the checking account. When the customer pays you and you Receive Payments for this invoice, it will put the amount back into your income again. The reasoning for my method is because the invoice linked to the Checking account directly on the Cash Basis Balance Sheet will create an A/R balance on the Cash Basis Balance Sheet which is not correct.
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Joey www.casdelraybeach.com Certified Pro Advisor |
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Bounced check
Quickbooks is wrong or almost completely wrong with the way to handle bounced check. They do not back out of income the bounced check, they only adjust the bank balance. It could happen that you are a cash taxpayer and pay tax on the income generated from the bounced check. In fact the income or cost of the item may have to be adjusted in the next yr because the NSF check turns out to be a bad debt. The post by JOEY is great and is the only way to handle it.
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Just one other note. The two items for RetCheck and RetCheck Fee should be Other Charge type and (NT) not subject to Sales Taxes. That way your Sales Tax calculation is not affected. NSF checks are not subject to sales tax and you don't get any Sales Tax credit when the customer's check is returned. That's why I said to do the Returned Check item for the total amount of the customer's check that bounced.
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Joey www.casdelraybeach.com Certified Pro Advisor |
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Thank you Joey for your advice and method in handling NSF checks. My situation is a little different in that the NSF check was for a customer deposit.
So far I've set up the RetCheck and RetCkFee items and recorded the Retuned Check Fee. Now to record the Returned Check, I'm assuming in the expense column I would enter Customer Deposits. Then when I receive the replacement check, I would need to enter another Sales Receipt and Make a Deposit. Please advise if this is the best way of handling this. |
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Since Joey is no longer with us, I will answer.
Charge the check to "Returned Check Fee " to the account you used for the customer's deposit in the Expense column below.You will also want to create another one with a Payee of "Returned Check Fee" for the amount that the bank charged you using the Bank Fee expense account. Then create a new Invoice for the Customer using the RetCheck item and the RetCkFee item . Use teh Receive Payment to show the payment from the customer when you get it.
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Joe Williams joewilliams@wavelinx.net Piedmont, Ok |
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or you could do it this way through a journal entry:
debit: A/R and customer name the amount of NSF check debit: bank charges for bank fee credit: cash bank acct now you have a very simple reversal of the payment for the invoice and the the A/R is showing the customer owes you a balance and your bank has charged you a fee.. when the customer pays you..do a reverse journal entry credit: cash bank acct debit: A/R customer acct for the original amount debit: bank charge to offset the incurred fee now your customer balance is zero and you have not incurred any additional sales income that would appear on the P & L if you invoiced the customer for the NSF check and bank fee
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No need to reverse the journal entry
Instead of entering another journal entry, you can simply receive the payment as normal, make the deposit, etc.
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Hi Wolf it seems your way of doing is easy but i have some problems in doing it what is A/R and when i do it i dont see the figure as outstanding in collections report Your efforts are much appreciated as i am a non accounting person managing my own company accounts |
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There appear to be several ways of handling bad checks depending on whether it's a cash payment, was intended as a deposit, etc. Folks here have suggested ways, some of which don't take into account tax implications, etc. Can somone now offer one universal way for handling bad checks that covers all these bases and takes into account all the objections? Or there is no such animal -- and it's situational?
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EDIT: Upon re-reading this, it looks very complicated. In reality, it is not. It is just difficult to put things like this into words without getting very verbose! General Ideas Accounts Needed You will need the following accounts,Recording the Returned Check You will need either two transactions or a single, split, transaction to record the returned check, assuming the bank charges you a fee for this. If you download transactions from the bank, follow their lead – one split or two separate transactions. The two transactions (or splits) represent the returned check itself and the bank fee. Assign the returned check to the (new) “Returned Checks” expense account and the fee to to whatever expense account you use for bank fees. There will be places in the transaction(s) for filling in this info.Invoice the Customer When you create the invoice, QuickBooks will recognize that there are outstanding billable expenses for this customer and ask if you want to add that them to the invoice. Select "OK" and then check off the two charges to bill them back to the customer. The invoice is now complete, unless you want to add an additional late fee charge above and beyond recovery of the bank's fee.Recording the Replacement Check Nothing special is required. "Receive Payments" from the customer and apply the payment to the invoice. Then deposit the check and hope the same thing doesn't happen all over again!Summary of key points Caveats Do not take the approach of backing out some or all activities that lead up to the returned check. This gets very complicated very quickly. If done wrong, this could mess up things like inventory, cost of goods sold and other things. Also, you are probably not going to get back whatever product or service was delivered. You can't back things out in the real world as easily as you can back out the records of them in QuickBooks. So there really may be no right way to do this.Final Word What I outlined above is new to me and I have only used it once. I would appreciate any comments or criticisms. Areas I wonder about: Last edited by bertilak; 09-19-2012 at 11:49 AM. Reason: minor clarification |
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So what inventory items are you going to use on the new invoice? also, NSF checks are not expenses.
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~Deidre~ Senior Accountant Quickbooks Proadvisor |
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Capture1.png is the downloaded transaction from my bank for the NSF check. I filled in the accounts, the customer, and originally put check marks in the billable column. These have now been changed to icons indicating that they have been invoiced. If I use other than an expense account, QB does not allow me to put a check mark in the billable column. I believe QB is trying to tell me something here! Capture2.png is the invoice. Once I selected the customer, QB did most of the rest for me. I just had to tell it to apply outstanding charges and it filled in the rest. Capture3.png is what a statement looks like. Whether checks are an expense or not is an open question. For me, things work best when thought of that way. None of the above work if the returned check is other than an expense. Note that the expense account for "Returned Checks" is back to a balance of zero once the invoice is created, which one would do immediately. Last edited by bertilak; 09-14-2012 at 10:18 AM. |
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